INTJ Men in Relationships: Concur

Contents
  1. The Vault
  2. Basal Area
  3. What I Told Sherm
  4. Odiorne's File
  5. Stand 4
  6. The Reserved Piece
  7. Concur
INTJ men in relationships — the Architect

The trouble with being married to an INTJ man is not that he decides things. It is that the deciding happened somewhere you were not, on a timeline you were not shown, and by the time it reaches you it has stopped being a proposal and become logistics. Mine filed his with me. I stamped it in, slid it into the drawer, and did not read a line of it for sixteen years.


Stand 4 (14.7 ac., mixed softwood, sw. of house): commercial thinning scheduled 2019; second entry 2039. Stand 7 (11 ac., white pine, road frontage): no scheduled entry.

That is out of a document I received across my own counter in the spring of 2003, stamped, initialed, and filed in the vault at the Sedgely town office, which I have run since 1998.

Alden was thirty-eight then and had held a forester’s license for twelve years. He came in on a weekday morning with the plan in a folder because the tax program requires one on file, and he stood on the public side of the counter while I did it, and neither of us treated it as anything.

“How long’s this good for?”

“Ten years. Then it gets updated.”

“You want a copy back.”

“I’ve got a copy,” he said, and went back out to his truck.

We had been married nine years at that point. What I would have told you about my husband, that year and for the next sixteen, is that I had married a man who schedules me. I said it in that order, with the me on the end, because the me is where it landed. Not the house, not the land, not the woodlot. Me. Vacations proposed in a way that made them look like they were already booked. The truck traded on a cycle. A conversation about the roof in year one of a five-year plan for the roof. Our daughter’s college money existing, fully, in an account, before she could read, and nobody ever having sat down with me and said, here is what I think we should do.

I can give you the exact grammar of it. He does not say what do you think about. He says I’ve got us in at the Bethel place the second week of the month, the boy at the barn can take the dog. Everything in that sentence has already happened somewhere else. There is no seam in it you could get a bar into. And if you say you would rather go in the fall, what you get back is not an argument, it is a revised sentence with the fall in it and the dog still handled.

Alden Torrey does not argue. That is the thing people get wrong about him from outside. He does not argue because arguing is what you do while a thing is being decided, and by the time it reaches the table he is finished, and what is left is scheduling, and he will schedule around any objection you make without ever once revisiting the thing underneath it.

I have known him since I was seventeen. There was a two-year stretch in the middle of this where I could not sit in a room with him.

The Vault

The clerk is the one who knows and cannot say. That is nine-tenths of it.

I register your vehicles, I record your deeds and your discharges, I take the birth and the death and the marriage, I issue the burial permit, I run the elections and I certify the results. What comes across that counter comes across it in a category, and the category tells me what it is, where it lives, how long I have to keep it, and who is entitled to look at it. That is the whole training. A thing arrives, and before I have any feeling about it, I have filed it.

A record is not a story. It has a retention period. Dog licenses I keep six years and then they go. Vital records I keep until the building falls down and then somebody digs them out of the cellar hole. I have signed four hundred and some burial permits in this town and I could not tell you the content of one of those families’ grief, and I could tell you, to the day, when each of them came in and who came with them.

Our vault goes back to 1809 and smells like it. There is a ledger in there in which a man named Grindle, no relation I can prove, recorded three drownings in the Narrows in one week in 1871 in the same hand he used for the pound fees.

On election night I am the last building in town with a light on. You count in public, with the wardens, with the door unlocked and anybody entitled to stand there and watch, and you read the totals out loud into a room that in a bad year has nine people in it and in a good year has three. I have run twenty-two of those. Nobody has ever come to watch a recount and then said I was wrong.

The Bog Road culvert has been on the warrant at town meeting for twelve years. It is a nine-thousand-dollar culvert and by now it has cost us two selectmen, one engineer’s study, and a man who stood up at meeting in 2016 and read aloud, at length, from a document he had gotten from the state, which turned out to be about a different road in a different town. It is still not replaced. Some years I put it on the warrant myself, out of a sense of continuity.

Dana Pinkham stood at that counter for twenty minutes in about 2017 disputing the excise on a chipper, on the grounds that it was not a vehicle, it was a machine that happened to have wheels under it. He lost. He comes in every year and mentions it. He is the only man in Sedgely who has ever made me laugh at that counter on purpose.

There is a man who comes in the second week of every year to register a truck that has not run since 2009. He pays the excise. He says he is going to get to it. I have made him a small file of his own and I have never told him it exists.

Basal Area

Alden manages other people’s woodlots for a living and ours on the side, three hundred and eleven acres running back off the Ridge Road toward the flats.

Here is the part I understood the day I married him and did not understand at all. You do not walk into a stand and cut the biggest trees, which is what everybody’s grandfather did and is why so much of this county is junk now. You cruise it with a prism and count what is standing, and you get a number for how much wood is on an acre, and you compare that to what that soil on that aspect will actually carry. If it is overstocked, everybody in there is competing and nobody is putting on any diameter. So you go in and take the crooked, the damaged, the wolf trees with the big low crowns, and the ones that are simply in the way of a better one, and you leave the crop trees room. Nothing you did that day looks like an improvement. It looks like a mess and a lot of tops on the ground.

You are also making a bet about what the ground can carry, which is soil and aspect and how much water moves through, and you will find out whether you were right about that in a decade, when the residual either responds or sits there sulking. Alden has three stands he considers mistakes. Two of them were his father’s. The third was his, in 1997, and he will walk you into it and tell you what he did wrong in about ninety seconds and then walk out and not mention it for another year.

Then you come back in twenty years.

That is the trade. A commercial thinning today is a decision about a stand somebody will cut in 2065, and the man doing the cutting in 2065 will have no idea your name was ever on it. Alden has planted trees he has told me plainly he will not see merchantable. He does not say that in a wistful way. He says it the way you would read off a delivery date.

I want to be fair to him about the schedule, because something like this turns into a portrait of a cold man if you let it, and he is not that. Corbin asked him once, at about fourteen, why he bothered with a stand he would never cut.

“Because it’s the only part of it I get to decide,” Alden said, and handed him the paint gun.

He is the one who sat up with our son through two winters of asthma. He is the one who drove my mother to every appointment in the last year of her life, on a rotation he built, and he built the rotation because building the rotation was how he could stand it, and I did not understand that for a very long time. There is a page of it in the kitchen drawer still, in pencil, with her appointments and the mileage and, at the bottom, the name of the woman at the desk who was good with her.

What I Told Sherm

My brother Sherman is two years younger than me and has been running a boat and running behind on it since he was twenty-two.

In 2011 he wanted forty acres of ours on the road side, at family price, to put a house on and to borrow against. He asked me first, in my kitchen, because he knew better than to ask Alden first, and he was right about that in a way I did not appreciate at the time.

I brought it to Alden that night at the table with the plates still down. He listened all the way through, which he does, with his hands flat, and he did not interrupt once, and when I finished he was quiet long enough that I thought I had him.

“No,” he said.

“That’s it? He’s my brother.”

“He is.” He got up and put his plate in the sink. Then he came back and sat down and gave me three reasons, and all three of them were about the land and none of them were about Sherm. Frontage that is worth what that frontage is worth is not something you sell to solve a cash problem. A house lot there splits the access to two stands. And the third one I am not going to repeat because Sherm may read this.

Then he went to bed, and I sat at that table until after midnight, and in the morning I drove down to the wharf and stood on the float in the wind and told my brother no.

Sherm heard me out. He looked at the water for a while and said, “Well.” Then he said, “You always could see round a corner,” which is a thing he has said about me since we were children and which is the single most inaccurate sentence anybody in my family has ever said out loud.

I used Alden’s reasons. I used them in Alden’s order. I did not say Alden says, not once, and That omission has sat with me for fifteen years, because it was neither an accident nor a kindness. I liked being the one who had the reasons. I had spent my whole life in this town being Almon Grindle’s daughter and then the clerk, and there in the parking lot of the co-op I was a woman explaining a land decision to her brother with three reasons in her hand, and I was good at it, and he took it from me, and he has never once asked me since whether the no was mine.

That is the shape of it and I have not found a way to make it smaller. I did not live inside my husband’s schedule. I ran it. I made the calls. I did the telling. I got the standing that comes with being the one who knows, and then I complained about being managed, and both of those were true at once for twenty-two years.

Sherm sold the boat in 2014. He is fine. He is a foreman for a marine contractor and he is, by every measure I have, doing better than he would have with that lot. That does not settle a thing.

He still puts his registration through my window every spring and calls me Clerk, which he thinks is funny.

Odiorne’s File

In the fall of 2019 we were hiring an assessing agent, which in a town this size means the clerk sits on the committee and the clerk also handles the files.

A woman named Odiorne applied from away and put in a packet with things in it that people do not usually put in packets. There was a page from an assessment she had done at a previous job, the kind a consultant runs on a whole department, and it had her four letters on it and a paragraph under them, and she had included it, I think, because she was proud of the paragraph.

Those files are personnel. They live in a locked cabinet, they are not public, and the whole point of me is that I know exactly which things I am holding and what I may do with them. So I read it once at my desk, in the only way I know how to read, which is that I settled what it was and where it belonged before I had any opinion about it at all.

Then I went home and looked the thing up on my own laptop on my own time, and that was the first evening of about three weeks.

The letters are habits and the order they sit in is the whole content. The one running at the top of him is not a method for working on a problem. It is a machine that converges, out of sight, on one picture of how a thing is going to go, and it arrives there well before there is any evidence a reasonable person would accept, and once it has arrived it does not truly reopen. Under it sits the habit everybody in Sedgely mistakes for the whole man: the part that takes that picture and renders it as dated steps other people can be handed. The ranking, first habit to last, is broken out on the page for the type, and I got into it that autumn far oftener than I would care to put in print.

Which means the schedule is not the thinking. The schedule is the exhaust.

I have been arguing with the exhaust since 1994.

The count everybody works from is a national survey run in 1998 on three thousand and nine people in all. Of the sixteen personality types this one came out second-smallest, twenty-one per thousand, and among the men, thirty-three per thousand. Call it one man in thirty. There are eight hundred and forty people in Sedgely and I would guess we have three or four, and I can name two of them, and one is a selectman nobody can stand.

I looked at the limits, because in my office the first question about any certificate is what it certifies. The only repeat anybody has done was a single round four weeks on, pooled across three studies, four hundred twenty-four people. Sixty-five out of a hundred came back with the identical record. Twenty-eight had a letter change. If a document disagreed with itself a third of the time I would not certify a copy of it, and the scored scales underneath are steadier than the label riding on them, which is worth knowing and does not travel with the label when people quote it.

What that means is that the man is not withholding a reasoning process from you. There is a reasoning process and it is genuinely not available in the form you are demanding. What he can hand over is the output. When I have said, over thirty years, walk me through how you got there, I have been asking for a document that does not exist, and then treating the empty hands as contempt.

Three things moved that week.

The vacations first. He had not been presenting me with a fait accompli to shut me up. He had arrived at that week, that place, that price three months earlier by a route he could not have shown me if I had held a gun on him, and what reached me was the one piece of it that can be handed across a table.

Then the roof, which we had a conversation about in 2007 that I had experienced as being told, and which I now understand he had been carrying since a leak in 1999 that I never knew about, because he found it and fixed it and put the year in a notebook.

Then the rotation for my mother, which I had received as a man solving a logistics problem with his mother-in-law in it, and which was the only container he had for a thing he could not otherwise have carried into that house every week for ten months.

Then the no to Sherm, and I made it to the second reason before I closed the laptop and went to bed.

Stand 4

Dana Pinkham brought his crew in on the third week of that autumn to do the thinning in Stand 4, which was on the plan for 2019 and had been on the plan for 2019 since I stamped it.

I knew it was scheduled. I want that established. It was on the calendar in the kitchen in his handwriting.

What I had not done was picture it, and on the second morning I came out with my coffee and the whole ridge behind the house was open to the sky and there was a skidder working in what had been, from that window, for twenty-five years, dark.

I got in the car in my bathrobe and drove up the woods road and stood in front of the skidder.

Dana shut it down and climbed halfway out and did not say anything, because Dana Pinkham has been in this business thirty years and has been stood in front of by better than me. He took his hat off, which I have thought about since. Nobody takes a hat off for a woman in a bathrobe unless something has already gone wrong.

Alden came up the road on foot with his vest on.

“It’s the plan,” I said. “I know it’s the plan. I’m asking you to stop.”

He looked at the ridge for a while.

“All right,” he said.

I said that I would like him to hear the whole thing before he answered, and that there was more, and he said, “All right,” again, and then he went over to Dana and the two of them got to talking about the landing and how to bring the machine out without tearing up the road, and Dana said something about the trucker, and Alden said he would square it.

A year later Dana was at my counter with his registrations and he brought it up himself, which he did not have to do.

“He had the landing figured for stopping, too,” he said. “Had it worked out both ways before he ever come up that road. I’ve seen him do it. He don’t do the one plan.”

I asked him what he meant by that and he said he had to get to the notary before she left, and he went.

They were off the property by noon. The tops were down and the ruts were in the road and the ridge stayed open to the sky, because a stand that has been half thinned does not go back to being a stand nobody touched. What I stopped was the rest of it. I did not stop any of the part I had already looked at. He paid Dana for the week and for the move, which I found out the following spring when I was doing our taxes, and neither of them ever put a number in front of me.

I stood in the driveway in a bathrobe at ten in the morning with my arms crossed. What I felt was not relief and I did not go back in the house for a while.

The Reserved Piece

I went into the vault on the first morning I had the office to myself and pulled our own plan out of the drawer where I had put it in 2003.

Stand 7 is the eleven acres of white pine along the road. They are big. My father used to take me through there when it was Beaman land and he did not own one stick of it, because he liked to walk in there and because he had a theory about what had come through in the ’38 hurricane and what had not.

Alden bought that piece in 2001 for more than it was worth as timber and I gave him a hard time about it for a decade.

The line in the plan, in the column where every other stand has a year in it, reads: no scheduled entry. And in the notes at the back, where a forester writes down what the objectives of the ownership are, which is a section I had stamped and filed and never once read, there is a sentence.

Retained for owner’s family associations. Not to be entered under this or any subsequent plan.

My initials are in the corner of that page. There is a coffee ring on it that I would have to be the one who made.

Concur

I did not soften after that and I would not trust this if I said I did.

What I did for most of a year was get colder, and I picked the thing I knew would land. Alden proposes and Alden schedules, so I stopped answering. He would put a thing in front of me and I would say I would think about it, and then I would not, and then the window would close on its own and I would say nothing, and it worked. It worked repeatedly. A man who runs on dates can be taken apart by a woman who will not supply one, and I want it written down that I knew that in about the second week and kept going until the following autumn.

The clearest one was the boat trailer. He wanted to sell Corbin’s old trailer to a fellow down in Steuben who was driving up for it, and the fellow wanted an answer by the weekend, and Alden asked me twice, and both times I said let me think about it, and I did not think about it. I sat in the kitchen that weekend morning with a cup of coffee and watched him come in at half past nine and stand there with his phone and put it back in his pocket. Then he went out and moved the trailer around behind the shop where I would not have to look at it.

“Did he come?”

“He did,” Alden said. “It’s fine.”

He never said one word about any of it. He rebuilt around me every time, and the rebuilding got quieter, and one evening our son Corbin, who was home for a weekend, asked me what was going on with Dad, and I said nothing was going on, and Corbin said, “He’s got a list of things he’s not asking you about.”

This is what I would want somebody to have said to me in about 2005, and I am going to say it carefully, because there is a lazy version that blames a woman for not speaking up and I refuse to be the one who writes it.

A plan is not a cage and a plan is not consent, and the two questions are separate. Whether his plan is good is the least interesting thing about it. What matters is what it does when a person stands in front of it. Mine stopped, in about ninety seconds, at real cost, with a crew on the ground and a trucker booked, and it never came back around on me afterward and it has not been used against me once in six years. That is the test, and it is worth more than the reasons.

And I had twenty-two years of evidence that it would not stop, because he never told me it could. That is his to carry. A man who has never once said I’ll bend on this if you ask has no standing to be surprised that nobody asked. If yours does not stop, if the thing goes forward with an adjustment for your feelings built into it, on schedule, and that adjustment is the answer you get, then the goodness of the plan is beside the point and you are not being planned for, you are being routed around. No page describing how a man’s attention is put together should be allowed to sit on top of that and make it look like temperament. It would read the same for a wife who ran a household the same way, and there is a whole other weather that comes down on a woman who plans like this, which is its own accusation and its own piece.

What is left over, and what I have not got anywhere with, is that he was right.

The forty acres would have gone under with the boat. The pine on the road is worth a sum I do not say out loud. Our daughter came out of school owing nothing. My mother’s last year ran on that rotation and it held. I am fifty-six years old and standing in the middle of an outcome I like a great deal and did not choose. There is no form for that. I have looked for one in the way a person in my job looks for things, which is thoroughly and in the right drawer, and there is no procedure anywhere for going back and consenting to something after it has already come out well. I have looked. That is not a thing the description covers, because it is not a fact about him.

Sherm has never asked me whose no it was. Alden says he would have taken Stand 4 down that week whether or not I came out in the road, and that stopping was a separate decision and not a concession, and I do not believe him and I cannot prove it, and we have agreed to leave it where it is.

The ten-year update came across my counter this spring. He filed it himself, on the public side, the way he did in 2003.

Stand 4 has been changed. Where the second entry was scheduled for 2039 it now reads no scheduled entry, and there is a sentence in the objectives section that was not in the last one, which I will not be reproducing here.

I stamped it and initialed it and entered it in the book. Then I took a pencil, which you do not do, and in the margin of the town’s copy, next to that stand, I wrote one word, and I closed the drawer and went and unlocked the front door at eight o’clock.

Concur.


The people in these essays are composites drawn from long observation. The theory is not.

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