ESFP Women in Relationships: What I Went Looking For

Contents
  1. From Behind, Moving
  2. Nights
  3. A County Full of Her
  4. What I Did in the Barn Aisle
  5. The Flatbed
  6. The Volunteer Packet
  7. What I Went Looking For
ESFP women in relationships — the Entertainer

She does not replay anything. Not an argument, not a compliment, not the worst call she ran last winter. I have replayed one sentence of hers upward of a thousand times, and the reason mine drifted and hers did not is the whole of what follows.


Here is the night, the way I have had it since 2016.

My father’s memorial was at the funeral home on the loop and there were maybe ninety people. Reba worked that room the whole two hours. The word is not there to be unkind; she moved from group to group and she was the best thing in that building and every single person there left having had a real minute with her. “Your wife was wonderful today,” three different people told me afterward, at three different times, in about those words.

I took all three the way a man takes a receipt.

I stood by the guest book most of it, which is where you stand when you have decided in advance that you are going to be the one nobody comes over to.

Afterward we were out at the tailgate and I said something about how I had needed her that day, and she looked at me over the bed of that truck and said, “You’d rather I sat in the truck.”

Ten years of it. That sentence has gone through me more times than I could put a number to. I have run it driving. I have run it under a horse. I have taken it out at three in the morning and looked at it and put it back, and every time it comes out a little cleaner and a little more like the thing that explains my marriage, which is that my wife needs an audience more than she needs me.

The reason I can tell you the ninety and the guest book and the three people who complimented her is that I have been over that evening the way you go over a wall you built wrong.

Reba Kettner is forty-one and has been on the ambulance in this county since 2008 and a paramedic since 2013. There is no audience anywhere in that job. She works nights out of a bay behind the volunteer fire building with one partner and a radio, and a good third of what she does is somebody’s grandmother on a bathroom floor at four in the morning with nobody watching but a nephew who is no help.

I shoe horses. The route has been mine since 2005 and I work Renner County and about a third of the next one.

We have a son, Ollie, who is fourteen, and a place east of Delaney with nine acres and a pen, and by any reasonable measure this has been a good marriage. That is going to sit badly against what follows and it is going down first anyway.

In 2022 a man named Cruz Salazar quit riding with my wife because of something I did, and I am going to lay that out where it belongs and not soften it on the way.

From Behind, Moving

You do not learn anything about a foot by looking at the foot.

You watch the animal walk away from you. That is the whole trade, and it is the bit nobody expects. A horse that is landing wrong will tell you from thirty feet in about six strides, and it will tell you in the hip and the shoulder before it tells you anywhere near the hoof, and if you get down and start studying a foot before you have watched it move you will shoe the foot and not the horse.

A hoof grows about three eighths of an inch a month and the whole trade is arranged around that number. Seven weeks is not a tradition. It is the point at which the wall has moved far enough that the angle you set has gone somewhere you did not put it.

Then you pick it up and you have got about four minutes before the animal decides it has been generous enough.

A horse will also tell you what its owner is like, which is a thing farriers say to each other and do not say to owners. An animal that has been handled badly does not fight you; it goes still in a particular way and waits for the part it knows is coming.

Hot or cold is an argument people have who do not shoe for a living. I do both. What actually matters is angle and it matters to a degree or two, because the hoof-pastern axis runs up into a leg and a leg runs up into an animal that weighs twelve hundred pounds, and two degrees over a year is a suspensory.

The other thing about the work is that it is done alone in somebody else’s barn and nobody watches any of it. The client is generally in the house. A man could do a poor job on a hind foot every week of his life out here and the only thing that would ever catch him is the animal, half a year on, in a way nobody would trace back.

Seven weeks means the route is a loop and the loop is the business. Sixty-odd clients, a schedule that lives in my head, and about three of those clients pay on time. The other thing seven weeks means is that I have been in some of these barns two hundred times and know exactly what has been going wrong in those houses for twenty years without anybody having told me a thing, which is a fact about me that ought to have come up sooner than page four of this.

There is a woman named Loma out past the low water crossing with three horses she does not ride and cannot afford. I do them every seven weeks. She pays late and then she pays.

“I’ll have the rest of it for you next time.”

“That’s fine.”

Once a year she pays in a way that tells me she went and did something she should not have had to do, and I have not said a thing about it in nine years and I never will, and I have thought about what that costs her and I keep going out there.

Nights

What Reba does is not what people picture and it is not television.

Most of it is nobody dying, and that is not a small thing, it is the actual job. It is a diabetic who has not eaten. It is a lift assist on a ranch road where the ranch road is the problem. It is a man on a ranch road who has been on the ground nine hours before anybody came looking. It is two hours of paperwork and a trip to the county seat and back, and in a service this size it is also mopping out the box at five in the morning.

The service runs two trucks for a county that takes fifty minutes to cross. There are stretches where the second truck is not staffed and everybody knows which stretches those are and nobody puts it in the paper.

She is very good. I want that established before anything else, because her being good at it has never once been in question. “I watched her talk a man out of a cab with a compound and nothing on board,” Cruz told me in 2019. “Twenty-two minutes. I don’t know how she does it.”

She comes off a shift and she is exactly the same. Not cheerful about it. The same. For fifteen years that was the part I could not get over. She does not come in flattened, she does not sit in the driveway, she does not need forty minutes. She comes in and she is here.

“Did he get the poster board done?”

I read that for a decade as a woman who had not been touched by it.

A County Full of Her

“She’s a good time, your wife.” And then, in the same breath, out of the same mouth: “She does love an audience, though.”

Out here you get both halves from one man in about nine seconds.

The second half never gets said about a man. There is a man in this county who does exactly what Reba does at a gathering, who works a room the same way and is genuinely wonderful at it, and what gets said about him is that he never met a stranger. That is the whole file on him. Nobody has ever attached a motive to it.

For her there is always a motive, and the motive is the point of the sentence. He is warm; she is seeking something. He gives; she needs. I have heard the sentence in three different rooms with three different amounts of affection in it and the structure underneath was identical every time.

And it lands on me sideways, because a man married to a woman like that is understood to be either lucky or a fool, and people generally decide which one inside about a minute of meeting me.

The other direction, a man who empties himself out on everybody all day and comes home with nothing left, does not get called an attention seeker at all. He gets a large heart and a wife who is understood to need looking after, and that arrangement is written up separately.

What I Did in the Barn Aisle

I did not tell anybody the sentence. That is what I would have said in my own defense in 2021 and it is technically true and it is worthless.

What I did instead was ask.

I need to say why, and the why is not flattering and is not complicated. By 2021 I had been running the memorial for five years and it had got so clean in my head that it had stopped being enough. A thing you have polished that long starts asking to be corroborated.

It started small. I asked her sister, at a birthday thing, whether Reba had always been like that, and I put a particular weight on like that, and her sister looked at me and said, “Like what,” and I said never mind. That was the first one. I did about a dozen more over eighteen months.

I asked a woman she went to school with. That one I did at a wedding, with a drink in my hand, and I have thought since about how it must have looked from the outside, which is like nothing at all. I asked one of the volunteers at the fire building, in a barn aisle, while I was working on his mare, which is a place a man will say anything because he is standing there with nothing to do. I did not accuse my wife of one thing. I asked questions with a shape to them and I let people fill in the shape, and about half of them did, because that is what people do.

And in 2022 I asked Cruz.

Cruz Salazar rode with her for six years. He is fifty-one, he has a bad shoulder he will not do anything about, and he is the only person in this county who has spent more hours in a small enclosed space with my wife than I have. Nights, mostly, the two of them and a radio. I got him at the feed store and I asked him whether Reba was different on shift than she was at a party, and he said not really, and I asked it again a different way, and he stopped and had a good look at me and then said, “Royce, what are you asking me.”

I said I was just asking, which is as dishonest a sentence as I have ever put in front of another man.

He told her that week. He told her exactly, which is what he would do, and my wife came home and asked me one question.

“Have you been going around this county asking people about me.”

“I asked a couple of people a couple of things.”

That is what I said to her, standing in my own kitchen.

Afterward he never mentioned it to me at all. I have been at the feed store with him twice since and both times he was perfectly civil and both times I got in the truck feeling like a certain kind of man.

Cruz asked for a schedule change in the fall and got it. He is on days now out of the other station, which he did not want, and which he took. Six years of nights with the same partner in a two-truck service is not a thing you replace, and my wife has run with four different people since and does not talk about it, and once, in the kitchen, in 2023, she said to nobody in particular, “I miss knowing what a person’s going to do before they do it.” She said it the way she says everything, which is once, in about four seconds, and then she asked me where the good scissors were.

The Flatbed

In the spring of 2025 we were coming back from a thing in the county seat and I brought the sentence up.

There was no working up to it. I had been running it that week harder than usual because of something else that had happened, and it came out in the cab as an accusation with a date on it.

“At Daddy’s memorial,” I said. “Out at the tailgate. You told me I’d rather you sat in the truck.”

Reba drove for a while. Then she said, “That wasn’t your daddy’s memorial. That was the wreck on 187.”

“It was the memorial.”

“You came out to bring me a coat,” she said. “It was the winter before. You wouldn’t come down to the tailgate. Cruz waved at you and you got back in and sat there with the motor running, and I came up to the window and said it.”

“You’ve got it wrong,” I said, and then I gave her the whole of it. “The guest book. Ninety people in that building. Me standing at the back of the flatbed.”

And she said, “You didn’t have the flatbed.”

I bought that truck in the spring of 2017.

She was not triumphant about it. She did not make a thing of it, and I have run the cab of that vehicle enough times since to be certain her face gave me nothing I could have used afterward. She said it the way she says everything, which is once, and then she asked, “You want to stop in Delaney and get something,” and I said no, and we came the rest of the way with the radio on.

I did not say anything else in the cab. I want that down, because there is a telling of this in which I take it well, and what I actually did was go quiet for forty minutes in a way she has seen several hundred times.

I looked it up that night, which is a stupid thing to say about your own life. The bill of sale is in the shop. My father died in the spring of 2016 and it rained that whole week and the memorial was inside and there was no tailgate and there was no flatbed.

So the two halves of it are real and they were never in the same year. There was a memorial, and she worked that room, and I stood by the guest book. And there was a sentence, and she said it, and I have had it in my hand the whole time.

She said it in the winter of 2015 at a wreck scene on a state highway, standing at the window of a truck I no longer own, to a man who would not get out of it.

She was describing me.

The Volunteer Packet

Bitsy Rambeau runs a therapeutic riding program out of a place east of town and I do her string, nine head, at a rate I will not repeat because it would embarrass both of us.

In the summer of last year she decided I ought to volunteer, and she gave me the training folder to take home, which had the whole business in it: how to lead, how to sidewalk, what to do if a rider goes off. And behind that, because somebody had padded it out, there was a section on volunteers and the different ways people work in a group, and it laid out the sixteen personality types, six of them to the page.

I did not read it for a month. Then I read it at the kitchen table in one sitting after everybody was in bed, which is not how I do anything.

The habits are ranked and the rank is what carries it.

The first one in my wife takes in whatever is going on right now, at full size, and here is the part I had never had a word for. It does not run anything back.

Most of what I would call my inner life is replay. I go over things. A conversation happens and then it happens again in the truck, and again under a horse, and each time I have got a better version of what I should have said and a slightly worse version of what actually occurred. That is not a flaw in me, or not only; it is where a great deal of my thinking gets done and I would not know how to think any other way.

She does not have that room. There is no offline version of my wife. Whatever you got, you got live, and if you were not there for it then it did not happen to you, and fifteen years went into being angry at a woman for not attending a marriage I was conducting in a truck. There is no second pass. Whatever took place took place the once, at whatever size it was, and then the next thing happened. She does not rehearse and she does not review and she is not carrying a bad start of the week into the weekend, and the whole reason her version of that sentence is exact is that she has never touched it since she said it, and the whole reason mine is a ruin is that I have handled it a thousand times.

Sitting under it is a standard she keeps to herself and does not announce, and that is why she has never once explained herself to me and is not going to.

Habit by habit, the order is set down on the page given over to the type itself, and how often I have gone back at it is not a figure I want said out loud.

Three things turned over at that table.

I sat there a long time before any of it moved, with the folder open at a page about sidewalking.

Coming off a shift, first. She is the same at eleven at night after a bad one because there is no second pass in her for it to get worse in, and I had been reading that as a woman it did not reach. It reached her at the time. It reached her all the way. I have seen her come in off a pediatric one and stand at the sink not moving, and it was over in nine minutes, and I filed the nine minutes as proof it had not been much. It just does not get relitigated in a driveway, and a driveway is where I had been looking for the evidence.

Then the room at the memorial, which she did work, and which I have never been wrong about. She was in that room the whole two hours with every person she was in front of. She was also with me by the guest book for however long she was there, at the same size, and I was not there for it, because I was already running the version of the evening I was going to be carrying afterward.

Then the barn aisle, and every question I asked with a shape on it, which was a man building a case in a room she has never once entered and never will, and expecting her at the end of it to defend herself in there.

Honest small print, and a sales pitch above it. Underneath everything there is one repeat study and no other: a four-week gap between sittings, and four hundred twenty-four subjects once three studies are put together, roughly two in three landing on the identical set the second time and past a quarter landing with one letter different. There are scales scored below that printed label and they reproduce a great deal more closely than it does.

In my work, if a horse measures two ways on two visits five weeks apart, the horse has not changed. My ruler has.

Head count: that national sample of 1998, three thousand nine of them. Men come out near seven per hundred. Women, ten.

One woman in ten. Which means the reading I ran on my wife for a decade is not a reading of my wife. It is a reading this county keeps in stock, in quantity, for a very large number of women, and it was on the shelf before I ever met her.

I did not volunteer, and Bitsy has not asked twice, which is how she does things. I still do the nine head every seven weeks.

What I Went Looking For

Now the part I owe somebody, and I am going to do it by telling you what I actually looked for, because I did look, for eighteen months, harder than most men look at anything.

Here is the list I had. Whether she was where she said she was. Whether the shifts on the board matched the shifts she worked. Whether there was a person. Whether money moved. Whether she was different with somebody than she was with me, in a way I could point at, in a room I was standing in. Whether anybody I asked, including a man who spent six years in a truck cab with her at three in the morning, had ever seen one thing.

A list like that has a name and the name is not vigilance. A man who is looking after his marriage does not conduct a survey in barn aisles. What I had was a conclusion from 2016 and eighteen months of trying to find it something to stand on.

Eighteen months. A dozen people. I found nothing. Not nothing much. Not nothing I could prove. Nothing.

So if you are reading this because it fits, go and do what I did, and do it faster than I did it and with fewer people. If you find any of it, then what is in front of you has nothing to do with how anybody’s attention is built, and a page about habits will be no use to you whatsoever, and you should stop reading things like this and go talk to somebody who is not in your county about what you found. And if you go looking that hard and turn up nothing, sit with the possibility that the case was mine and not hers, because that is where I ended up and it took me a decade and cost another man his shift rotation.

Where I have finished up with nothing is that I know now where my marriage takes place and I cannot get there.

It happens live. It has always happened live. Every real thing between the two of us has taken place inside the seven or eight seconds while it was going on, and I have put fifteen years into the truck afterward, doing the marriage properly, alone, in a room she has never been in. I can see the room now. I still cannot stay out of it. I went in there twice this week.

What I have started doing, and it is not much, is saying things once while they are happening. Not the right thing. Whatever I have got. It comes out about a third the size of what I would have had in the truck at nine that night and it lands in a room she is standing in, and I am told that is the trade.

Reba has a flight medic position in front of her that would put her at the base an hour away on twenty-fours, and it is more money and it is the job, and at the start of the summer she asked me.

“What do you think.”

“Let me think about it.”

Which is what I did. For two months. In the truck.

We have been married fifteen years and I would say twelve of them have been good, and I am aware that a man who has just described the above does not get to say that unchallenged, and I am saying it anyway because it is true and because leaving it out would make a better piece and a worse account.

Ollie is fourteen and does not replay either. He gets it off her, and I have started watching how the two of them are in a room together, which is a thing I could have been watching for fourteen years. I have watched that boy have a bad afternoon and be finished with it by supper and I used to think it meant he was not serious.

She does not know about the sentence. Not the ten years of it. She knows I had the night wrong. She does not know it was the load-bearing wall. There has been no evening in which I sat down and told her that a sentence she said out of a truck window in 2015 has been running the last decade of her marriage, and I have drafted that evening, in the truck, which is the joke of the whole thing.

Two days ago I came in and she was at the counter and I said it before I had run it, which is a thing I have maybe done nine times in my life.

I said, “Take the flight job.”

It came out flat and it came out wrong and it sounded like I wanted her gone. She turned round and gave me a look, about a second of one.

“That’s not what you meant,” she said.

I said no, it was not.

“Okay,” she said, and went back to what she was doing, and I was left standing there with all the rest of it unbuilt, which is the closest I have got.


The people in these essays are composites drawn from long observation. The theory is not.

This article is available at https://cinemawords.com/en/esfp-women-in-relationships/

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